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		<title>By: dear lauren berlant &#171; Dear Sandy</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.com/2008/06/23/women-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dear lauren berlant &#171; Dear Sandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] But even more than your awesome Duke monograph (which at least has the removing paratexts of the form), I am intimidated by your hilarious and engaged blog. Your review of Sex and the City, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But even more than your awesome Duke monograph (which at least has the removing paratexts of the form), I am intimidated by your hilarious and engaged blog. Your review of Sex and the City, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kim serca</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.com/2008/06/23/women-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kim serca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 07:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best way to watch Sex and the City, the movie is on DVD with - if you can get it - the US version which allows you to switch on the Spanish-dub version and, if you wish, Englsh subtitles - and turn off two thirds of the way through. Which turns it into an Almodovar film, about the bitterness of desire, far more interesting that Almodovar films.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to watch Sex and the City, the movie is on DVD with &#8211; if you can get it &#8211; the US version which allows you to switch on the Spanish-dub version and, if you wish, Englsh subtitles &#8211; and turn off two thirds of the way through. Which turns it into an Almodovar film, about the bitterness of desire, far more interesting that Almodovar films.</p>
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		<title>By: tender is the night feminism</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.com/2008/06/23/women-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tender is the night feminism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] people ask you all the time whether you saw the latest chick flick, and whether something other thanhttp://supervalentthought.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/women-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus/Read &quot;RE: The Dutiful Husband&quot; at Relationships &amp; Marriage Forum... of feigning sleep to the quite [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] people ask you all the time whether you saw the latest chick flick, and whether something other thanhttp://supervalentthought.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/women-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus/Read &#8220;RE: The Dutiful Husband&#8221; at Relationships &#38; Marriage Forum&#8230; of feigning sleep to the quite [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Henderson</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.com/2008/06/23/women-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw Sex and the City last night, finally, and kind of expected guilty pleasure.  But it wasn&#039;t guilty, just only so much pleasure.  It&#039;s a shopping pic and I can like a good shopping pic if the merchandise holds up--their&#039;s was kind of wacky. I was sitting way up front in a big theater, and a lot of color swooshed by.  I did like being able to see the actors&#039; faces up close; they&#039;re all groomed within an inch of their lives, but still you could see they were older than in the series and had been shot to reveal that, which I appreciated.  But you are so right about why-talk-to-your-lover-when-you-can-complain-to-
your-girlfriends.  I couldn&#039;t believe it when
Miranda was already moving out within 3 cuts of Steve telling her he&#039;d had sex with someone else.  (Do people over 20 still do that?)  Get mad, be hurt, make someone deal with your anger and hurt feelings.  But walk out?  The temporality of the film was pretty compressed (from snow to forsythia across a cut), but that was one place where it just collapsed.

I knew to expect the other shoddy places--the mammy vibe of Jennifer Hudson&#039;s BBF (Hudson looks great but will she ever get another role that doesn&#039;t lead with her ladies?)--but I didn&#039;t know to expect Lily, a near-mute China doll of a 6-year-old girl.  Good grief!  Why hasn&#039;t the film been cited for child abuse?  Dressed up and  dragged around like Samantha&#039;s humping terrier, with lines confined to &quot;again&quot; for another go at Cinderella.  In the tv series the child was adopted as an infant, so it isn&#039;t like Lily wouldn&#039;t be a chatty, 6-year-old English speaker by then.  Just one of the 5 girl-children but this one racially marked and voiceless.  Awful, kind of like watching Breakfast at Tiffany&#039;s and wondering how the hell they got away with Holly Golightly&#039;s Chinese landlord.  Made me want a kid power protest of the film, no adults allowed.  But maybe that&#039;s how you become a woman obsessed with romance who only complains to her friends; start as a high-fashion accessory child who doesn&#039;t talk at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Sex and the City last night, finally, and kind of expected guilty pleasure.  But it wasn&#8217;t guilty, just only so much pleasure.  It&#8217;s a shopping pic and I can like a good shopping pic if the merchandise holds up&#8211;their&#8217;s was kind of wacky. I was sitting way up front in a big theater, and a lot of color swooshed by.  I did like being able to see the actors&#8217; faces up close; they&#8217;re all groomed within an inch of their lives, but still you could see they were older than in the series and had been shot to reveal that, which I appreciated.  But you are so right about why-talk-to-your-lover-when-you-can-complain-to-<br />
your-girlfriends.  I couldn&#8217;t believe it when<br />
Miranda was already moving out within 3 cuts of Steve telling her he&#8217;d had sex with someone else.  (Do people over 20 still do that?)  Get mad, be hurt, make someone deal with your anger and hurt feelings.  But walk out?  The temporality of the film was pretty compressed (from snow to forsythia across a cut), but that was one place where it just collapsed.</p>
<p>I knew to expect the other shoddy places&#8211;the mammy vibe of Jennifer Hudson&#8217;s BBF (Hudson looks great but will she ever get another role that doesn&#8217;t lead with her ladies?)&#8211;but I didn&#8217;t know to expect Lily, a near-mute China doll of a 6-year-old girl.  Good grief!  Why hasn&#8217;t the film been cited for child abuse?  Dressed up and  dragged around like Samantha&#8217;s humping terrier, with lines confined to &#8220;again&#8221; for another go at Cinderella.  In the tv series the child was adopted as an infant, so it isn&#8217;t like Lily wouldn&#8217;t be a chatty, 6-year-old English speaker by then.  Just one of the 5 girl-children but this one racially marked and voiceless.  Awful, kind of like watching Breakfast at Tiffany&#8217;s and wondering how the hell they got away with Holly Golightly&#8217;s Chinese landlord.  Made me want a kid power protest of the film, no adults allowed.  But maybe that&#8217;s how you become a woman obsessed with romance who only complains to her friends; start as a high-fashion accessory child who doesn&#8217;t talk at all.</p>
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		<title>By: not the motorcycle diaries &#187; Pleasures, text, etc.</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.com/2008/06/23/women-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[not the motorcycle diaries &#187; Pleasures, text, etc.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Oh Lauren Berlant, you dreamy dream woman. On Sex &amp; the City The Movie: [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: ashtor</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.com/2008/06/23/women-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ashtor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for posting on Sex &amp; the City. I wish I had, like you, forgotten about the movie a moment after seeing it because I am rather embarrased by the depth and persistence of my disappointment with it. I feel like the political subjects you describe in a post on political optimism (and Obama) that tentatively (and in hushed voices) name their political allegiance out of fear for the desire &#039;naming&#039; brings into being. I was shocked at how badly I wanted Sex&amp;the City to talk about sex and love in ways that were risky, curious and suggestive. 
In the context of your post, I am thinking about the movie as it compares with how the television show attended to the function of &quot;talking&quot; as a fall from intimacy. In the television show, it felt like the conversation amongst women was accomplishing what they could not do in their relationships: they talked openly and freely with each other, laughed, felt ashamed and needy, and attempted to navigate difficult questions. But what your post brings my attention to is that in the movie, not only did the women retreat from talking about sex with their partners, but barely talked about it with each other either. Why do you think that is? I wonder if after 6 years of talking together about sex the only thing left for them to do, in a movie, was either to have it with each other or banish it completely. Or is that simplistic? Could this be why, for a group of women who, with humor and love, had heretofore talked so much, there was nothing left to say? Becuase I think more than anything, what felt depressing about the movie was that there was no conversation *anywhere*. Shopping as the movie&#039;s alternative to talking-about-sex?
If we shift the focus from the womens&#039; relation to their partners to their relationship to each other, how does our understanding of sex-talk and proximity to desire change, if at all?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting on Sex &amp; the City. I wish I had, like you, forgotten about the movie a moment after seeing it because I am rather embarrased by the depth and persistence of my disappointment with it. I feel like the political subjects you describe in a post on political optimism (and Obama) that tentatively (and in hushed voices) name their political allegiance out of fear for the desire &#8216;naming&#8217; brings into being. I was shocked at how badly I wanted Sex&amp;the City to talk about sex and love in ways that were risky, curious and suggestive.<br />
In the context of your post, I am thinking about the movie as it compares with how the television show attended to the function of &#8220;talking&#8221; as a fall from intimacy. In the television show, it felt like the conversation amongst women was accomplishing what they could not do in their relationships: they talked openly and freely with each other, laughed, felt ashamed and needy, and attempted to navigate difficult questions. But what your post brings my attention to is that in the movie, not only did the women retreat from talking about sex with their partners, but barely talked about it with each other either. Why do you think that is? I wonder if after 6 years of talking together about sex the only thing left for them to do, in a movie, was either to have it with each other or banish it completely. Or is that simplistic? Could this be why, for a group of women who, with humor and love, had heretofore talked so much, there was nothing left to say? Becuase I think more than anything, what felt depressing about the movie was that there was no conversation *anywhere*. Shopping as the movie&#8217;s alternative to talking-about-sex?<br />
If we shift the focus from the womens&#8217; relation to their partners to their relationship to each other, how does our understanding of sex-talk and proximity to desire change, if at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Blind Man</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.com/2008/06/23/women-are-from-mars-women-are-from-venus/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blind Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post and great opening line! I also cringed at &quot;colouring outside the lines.&quot; Sheesh. For a show that claims to be about sex--about open, honest sex--they sure do a great job of glossing over it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and great opening line! I also cringed at &#8220;colouring outside the lines.&#8221; Sheesh. For a show that claims to be about sex&#8211;about open, honest sex&#8211;they sure do a great job of glossing over it.</p>
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		<title>By: cathy davidson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cathy davidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That really is the funniest line in the world.  Oh, gosh, do I really have to see this movie??? xo great post, Cat]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That really is the funniest line in the world.  Oh, gosh, do I really have to see this movie??? xo great post, Cat</p>
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